Racist extremists charged today!

Carol Overland - Legalectric - Mon, 11/30/2015 - 12:48pm

Thanks to the STrib’s Libor Jany for posting the Statement of Probable Cause for Allen Scarsella.  The four are Scarsella, Joseph Backman, Nathan Gustavsson, and Daniel Macey.  Hennepin Co. Atty. Freeman’s press conference starts soon.

It looks like all four will be charged.  I’m very glad to see the County Attorney handling this quickly.  I believe they’re also looking at whether to charge this as a hate crime.  Given all the video and online threads, it’d be pretty hard to show it wasn’t a hate crime.

Probable Cause – Scarsella

From Reuters:

Allen Scarsella, 23, who prosecutors said in a complaint had admitted to shooting five protesters, was charged with one count of second-degree riot while armed and five counts of second-degree assault.

Joseph Backman, 27; Nathan Gustavsson, 21; and Daniel Macey, 26, were each charged with second-degree riot in the Nov. 23 late night shooting that left five demonstrators with wounds that were not life-threatening.


This is progress, a start.

From the press conference (close, but not necessarily verbatim):

“These are sick people…”

“These four have been in custody… we believe there may be another, and that’s why this is ongoing.”

“If you’re a racist, you’re a racist, and that’s just not acceptable.”

“For people to talk about about their fellow human beings in that manner is simply not acceptable.”

“First appearance is tomorrow, we’ve asked for half a million dollars for Scarsella, and for a quarter million for the others.”

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My Musical Family - Joy Riggs - Sun, 11/29/2015 - 7:26pm
It’s difficult to convey how exciting it was to stand up in front of two receptive audiences last week—a crowd of about 25 people on Monday afternoon, and nearly 75 in the evening—and read six excerpts from my book-in-progress.

The two readings went as well as I could have hoped. I made people laugh and cry, and in all the right places! And I managed not to cry, myself—a goal I was determined to achieve, and did achieve, thanks to all the reading aloud practice I did in the weeks leading up to the event.

My mom took this photo of me after the 3:15 p.m. reading.My daughter, Louisa, told me later that there was a moment during an emotional scene from Chapter 6 when the evening audience gave a collective exhale. I didn’t hear it, but I did hear the burst of laughter that came a few sentences later, following a line of dialogue by my mom that I personally find quite funny. It was thrilling to know that words I have written—and in some cases have rewritten and rewritten—engaged and moved people, and it was doubly thrilling to observe the reaction by a live audience. There is no better reward than that for an author.

(Oh, sure, money would be nice, too, but if your work doesn’t entertain or move people, it’s missing something important.)

Photos my uncle Bill took during the evening reading.Writing is mostly a solitary experience, and it’s often hard to know how your work is going to be received until you put it out there. I am not the best at promoting myself and explaining what I have been working on for months and months now; I worry that people’s eyes will glaze over as soon as they hear the words “band history,” or that when I say I am writing about my great-grandfather, they will assume I’m writing a work of genealogy that is of interest only to immediate family members.

But last week, I was able to show friends, family and interested community members what the work of memoir and narrative nonfiction is really about, and essentially say: “This is what I’m doing! I think it’s coming together, and I am proud of it!”

Photo my cousin Kristina took after the 7 p.m. reading.I have many people to thank for the success of last Monday’s events. They include: the Northfield Retirement Center (especially Milosha Malecha) for hosting the afternoon event; the Northfield Senior Center (especially Chris Ellison and Patsy Dew) for hosting the evening event; my fellow board members of the Vintage Band Festival (especially president Jan Stevens) for sponsoring the events; Paul Hager of Northfield Community Television for filming the afternoon reading; Northfield High School saxophone quintet members Gus Carlson, Nick Dempsey, Oli Hunter, Brady Malecha and Ben Mohlke for performing before the evening event; NHS band director Mary Williams for coordinating the appearance of the sax quintet and for advertising the event; St. Olaf Band Director Tim Mahr for his assistance in advertising the event; the Northfield News and reporter Kevin Krein for the article about my reading; the Southeastern Minnesota Arts Council, for awarding me the grant that made the event possible; poster artist Doug Bratland; author/teacher/mentor Kate Hopper, for her editing expertise and enthusiastic support; all my awesome friends and family members; and every person who took the time on Monday to come out and hear me read.

The only photo I took that night, of the sax quintet warming up the crowd.Speaking of awesome family members, it occurred to me after the event that I should have asked someone to take photos during and after the readings, since I was a little busy. Fortunately, my mom, my cousin Kristina Riggs Borsch and my uncle Bill Lowell did take photos and kindly shared them.

I asked audience members at both events to write down the names of music teachers or directors who had inspired them, and I promised to post the names on my blog. I was excited to see how many people participated! I will post the names later this week in a separate blog entry.

Cake photo by my cousin Kristina.G. Oliver’s delicious birthday cake is all gone now, and the next chapters of the book don’t seem to be writing themselves, so ... back to writing I go!
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Tuesday 12/1 – PPSA Annual Hearing

Carol Overland - Legalectric - Sun, 11/29/2015 - 3:40pm

Here we go again, this year’s Power Plant Siting Act Annual Hearing.

Public Utilities Commission (PUC) Docket Number: E999/M-15-785

Office of Administrative Hearings (OAH) Docket Number: 60-2500-32901

Date: Tuesday, December 1, 2015

Time: 9:30 a.m.

Location: Minnesota Public Utilities Commission, Large Hearing Room, 121 7th Place East, Suite 350, Saint Paul, MN 55101

Bad weather? Find out if a meeting is canceled. Call (toll-free) 1-855-731-6208 or 651-201-2213 or visit


Here are some prior dockets (to access the entire docket, individual comments, etc., go to :

2000 Summary of Proceedings

2000 Report EQB

2001 Summary of Proceedings

2001 Report EQB

2002 Summary of Proceedings

2002 Report to EQB

2003 Summary of Proceedings

2003 Report to EQB

2004 Summary of Proceedings

2004 Report to EQB

2005 Report to PUC

2006 Report to PUC – Docket 06-1733

2007 Report to PUC – Docket 07-1579

2008 Report to PUC – Docket 08-1426

2009 Report to PUC – Docket 09-1351

2010 Report to PUC – Docket 10-222

2011 Report to PUC – Docket 11-324

2012 Report to PUC – Docket 12-360

2013 Report to PUC – Docket 13-965

2014 Summary Comments– Docket 14-887

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Where are the “Prayers for _______”

Carol Overland - Legalectric - Sun, 11/29/2015 - 11:34am

Methinks cognitive dissonance has people’s minds in a wringer leading to silence.

Whenever a police officer is killed or seriously injured on the job, my facebook feed lights up with “Prayers for _______,” “blue line” memes, and #policelivesmatter hashtags.  Officer Garrett Swasey was killed by a white male terrorist at Planned Parenthood of Colorado Springs, likely one of the first on the scene of that violent attack.  Five other officers, not publicly identified, were injured.  Yet the internet is virtually silent.  The usual many, many comments are not there.  Only two of the many people I know who are usually filling the feed with “Prayers for” comments have offered concern about the fallen officer, and there’s been nothing at all regarding those injured.

There are quite a few comments about this silence…

Here’s a remembrance in the New York Times:

Garrett Swasey, Officer Killed in Colorado, Is Recalled for Courage and Faith


Officer Garrett Swasey was champion skater, church elder

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Postcard: November 30, 2015

Winona Media (Leslie Schultz) - Sun, 11/29/2015 - 10:24am

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Damn Immigrants

Blowing and Drifting - Christopher Tassava - Sun, 11/29/2015 - 8:56am

Even here at the windswept edge of the prairie, a patriot can find stubborn pockets of unassimilated immigrants.

This crude flag, seen today on an excursion southeast of my home town, speaks volumes about the recondite nature of the immigrants who dwell in the run-down compound of which this building is just one part.

Who knows what un-American spirits animate these immigrants. One can assume they’ve stubbornly retained the surnames they brought with them over the wide Atlantic – names full of ugly consonants and unlikely vowels that confound the American tongue.

Do these immigrants even know our Constitution, or recite our Pledge of Allegiance? Perhaps they – like their countrymen who never fled their rocky homeland – still follow the dictates of their king. Certainly, their farmstead suggests no interest in a Jeffersonian ideal of the citizen.

Whatever their political views, however, we can be sure that these immigrants adhere to the 16th century teachings of a raving Teutonic priest who sought to overturn the social order and who achieved decades of bloody religious warfare. As mute proof of their religiosity, a temple dedicated to this madman’s sect stands but a short distance from the compound, its minaret-like steeple looming over a think line of trees.

And what of more quotidian interests? Judging by the state of repair of the several motor vehicles in the compound, the immigrants can only with difficulty venture to the markets in town. Do they wear our clothes? Do they read our books? Do they eat our food? A patriot might reasonably wonder whether they have ever enjoyed the truest American delicacies such as hamburgers, pizza, or tacos. Until they do, that patriot should fear for the wholeness and unity of the Republic.

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Dog Pacer

Blowing and Drifting - Christopher Tassava - Fri, 11/27/2015 - 7:29pm

As a rule, I – like many cyclists – don’t enjoy encountering dogs on my rides. Some filthy cur bit me on the leg a few years ago, and while I didn’t contract rabies, this only heightened my concern.

Wednesday’s ride was no different. I had to squirt some water at one beast that ran at me from its driveway, and outsprint two other growling hounds that decided they needed to check me out.

Toward the end of my ride, approaching a stiff little climb, I heard a dog barking off in the distance. I figured that it was at the house at the top of the hill, but I took a wary look around anyhow, not wanting to get caught by some vicious mutt as I ground my way up the ascent.

Lo and behold, I discovered that I wasn’t hearing the barking of a dog far away, but the panting of one nearby – a shaggy but grinning golden retriever who was running right next to me. I reflexively veered away from him (her?), but he tracked my move and continued trotting along, glancing up at me and then slowing to cross behind me from one side to the other.

Figuring that I wasn’t after all in any danger, I finished the climb and, breathing easier, asked the pooch where he lived. Again he just looked at me, smiling, and I could see that he was a handsome old guy:

Recovering from the climb, I soft-pedaled for a bit, chatting with my new friend, who trotted alongside very easily. Finally he glanced back toward the hill, slowed, and peeled off, presumably to go back home for a well-deserved snack and drink and nap.

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Inciting violence — today a terrorist at Planned Parenthood

Carol Overland - Legalectric - Fri, 11/27/2015 - 1:47pm


A suspect is taken into custody outside a Planned Parenthood center in Colorado Springs, Colorado November 27, 2015. Police arrested a gunman who stormed the Planned Parenthood abortion clinic in Colorado Springs on Friday and opened fire with a rifle in a burst of violence that left at least 11 people injured, including five officers, authorities said. REUTERS/Isaiah J. Downing FOR EDITORIAL USE ONLY. NO RESALES. NO ARCHIVE. TPX IMAGES OF THE DAY

What am I thankful for? I’m thankful that we have an opportunity, today, to recognize and acknowledge our rights, and our right and obligation to stand up for our rights and the rights of everyone, but particularly the rights of women, blacks, Muslims, immigrants, and everyone else who is under siege. It’s times like these where I’m thankful to be an attorney, sworn on oath to uphold the Constitution, grateful to have this piece of paper that says I can open a door for others.  Day to day, I do this in a small way, helping people speak up, participate, and exercise their rights.  But the much larger picture is so ugly. Each and every one of us, this is our right and our obligation. We have lost so much in the rights department since 2001, and now our most fundamental Constitutional rights are being challenged from all sides, in many venues. Stand up, ramp it up.

Last week, racist terrorists with stated intent to raise hell shot unarmed #blacklivesmatter #justice4Jamal protesters in Minneapolis.

Today, it’s a domestic terrorists shooting at a Planned Parenthood clinic in Colorado Springs, CO, so far shooting at least one police officer killed and four injured, and two civilians killed and unknown others injured, 9 or maybe more civilians injured.

Planned Parenthood notes that:

We share the concerns of many Americans that extremists are creating a poisonous environment that feeds domestic terrorism in this country.

It’s not surprising there’s be a terrorist at a Planned Parenthood, it’s happened before, and will probably happen again.  But it raises the issue of responsibility of speech.  One of the latest right-wing political distractions has been a protracted, orchestrated, inflamed and vitriolic focus on Planned Parenthood, based on a phony video, and aimed at cutting Planned Parenthood federal funding.  Nevermind that Roe v. Wade is the law of the land since 1973, despite so many attempts to legislate it away (like the 50+ attempts to repeal “Obamacare”), since that time there have been repeated efforts to strip federal funding, many Planned Parenthood clinics do not offer abortions, abortions constitute just 3% of services, and look HERE at the government funding. And today a guy goes in and shoots up Planned Parenthood in Colorado Springs, CO.




What this says to me is that this is not about abortion.  It’s a rallying cry to limit Constitutional rights, and to prevent women’s access to health care and birth control, cancer testing, and STD treatment.

In tandem, we see a rallying cry to prohibit entry of refugees, to establish a “religious test,” and such inflamed hatred directed at Muslims, citizens and non-citizens alike.  Horrible, ugly stuff.  Over and over, the rants are based on a claim of theocracy, the the U.S. is a “Christian” nation, and that only “Christians” should be allowed in.  Not a thought is given to the founding of this country by people fleeing theocracy!  No weight is given to the Constitutional prohibition of establishment of a state (government) religion.

And in Texas, a Texas militia group posts names and addresses of Muslims and “Muslim associates” (report HERE) for what purpose other than to encourage “religious” terrorists?  Here’s THE Texas Militia site: Texas Militia. Same one?

Donald Trump is a prime offender, but it’s much broader than Trump.

HERE: One way to handle hate speech without undermining the whole concept of freedom of speech at Brunel University where Katie Hopkins was a panelist in debate.

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About the shootings and openly racist threats…

Carol Overland - Legalectric - Tue, 11/24/2015 - 1:56pm

The threads are being taken down, but many have screenshots.  Interesting that some of the comments on the City Pages article have disappeared, names were named in those disappearing threads, at least one showed up in comments, and surprise, and at least one has disappeared as well.

UPDATE: Saigamarine released, to others arrested.  Here’s the “connect the dots” piece: REVEALED: Accused Minneapolis shooters fascinated with guns, militia groups and the Confederacy.


UPDATE: Two arrests so far… 23 y.o. white male in Bloomington, and 32 y.o. Hispanic male in south Mpls.

For several nights running there have been white supremacists coming to the 4th Precinct, their online stated intent to shake things up and hurt people.

Here’s advice from one of them:

One shot from any gun of any kind that only wounded one protester would set of the spark that will open the season on Dindus. If you get away with it.

Points for using a bow and arrow with expanding razor blade head.

Cut the bar code off the arrow if you bought it at the store. Keep gloves on when you handle your arrows and make purchases in cash.

Don’t buy equipment in front of a video camera and then go Dindu Hunting before the data gets erased. (You probably have no way of knowing how long it is kept, if it was erased or even recorded.) It will be used against you.

Wait a few weeks, have patience, don’t get greedy. One Testimony (slain Dindu) that can’t be traced beats 50 that got you killed/captured and tortured. It makes the Dindus think that the “enemy” is everywhere. That causes them to lash out at the wrong people.

Consider a shotgun slug or 00 buckshot for short range. 30-06 or similar for long range.

Remember. LE’s will kill you for trying. So will Dindus. Unlike what the Dindus say, LE’s are not on the side of Vigilantes.

If you can run with the best of them, you could use a small pistol and disguise and flee to a car or bicycle that you have placed in a concealed area.

Here’s Minnesota’s criminal statute regarding terroristic threats:


Subdivision 1.Threaten violence; intent to terrorize.

Whoever threatens, directly or indirectly, to commit any crime of violence with purpose to terrorize another or to cause evacuation of a building, place of assembly, vehicle or facility of public transportation or otherwise to cause serious public inconvenience, or in a reckless disregard of the risk of causing such terror or inconvenience may be sentenced to imprisonment for not more than five years or to payment of a fine of not more than $10,000, or both. As used in this subdivision, “crime of violence” has the meaning given “violent crime” in section 609.1095, subdivision 1, paragraph (d).

Subd. 2.Communicates to terrorize.Whoever communicates to another with purpose to terrorize another or in reckless disregard of the risk of causing such terror, that explosives or an explosive device or any incendiary device is present at a named place or location, whether or not the same is in fact present, may be sentenced to imprisonment for not more than three years or to payment of a fine of not more than $3,000, or both.

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Life is good!!

Carol Overland - Legalectric - Mon, 11/23/2015 - 4:31pm

I gots me a chuckbox!!!

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Postcard: November 23, 2015

Winona Media (Leslie Schultz) - Sun, 11/22/2015 - 5:50pm

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Thanks for speaking up, Dave & Jan!

Carol Overland - Legalectric - Sat, 11/21/2015 - 6:33pm

Citizens trying to quietly and respectfully address the police problems in Minneapolis to the City Council were tossed out of the room, no public comment allowed!

I’ve known Jan Nye forever, she’s the third one here speaking to the Minneapolis City Council, and was hauled out, as were the others.  Before her was her partner Dave Bicking, who was also hauled out of the room.  Bicking was a member of the Civilian Review Board, which was disbanded by the City.  Since then, there have been many, many complaints regarding police behavior, and only 0.1% result in any discipline.  There’s a problem in Minneapolis, and it needs to be addressed.



HERE’S A LINK to the one video so far after the killing of Jamar Clark.

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“Still Alice” and Technology

Blowing and Drifting - Christopher Tassava - Fri, 11/20/2015 - 9:48pm

Tonight we watched Julianne Moore’s Oscar vehicle, Still Alice. The film is very much worth your time. Playing an Alzheimer’s patient in cruelly early decline, Moore was outrageously good, of course; she won the Academy Award for her performance. The movie is a complete tearjerker, and tears were jerked on our sofa. But I was surprised that end of the movie was much less depressing than I expected, given both the movie’s plot and much of the material to that point.

Though very much a family drama (albeit one in which the central character gradually dissipates), the film handled technology in an interestingly compelling way. Apple laptops and phones are everywhere. Alice uses her laptop to talk via video with her daughter and to deliver lectures in her day job as a professor at Columbia. (Though: the idea that she would be teaching a lecture course? ha! And that her lecture slides would project automatically? ha ha!)

Even more than her MacBook Air, Alice loves her iPhone. She plays Words with Friends on it against another daughter, she gets in trouble with her husband when she doesn’t answer it, she tries to make it part of a suicide scheme, and she finally misplaces it and then never really picks it up again – her electronic brain gone like her actual mind. The parallel was quite affecting and humanizing, and testament to the power of the story.

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George Snyder (?) spews in the bEagle

Carol Overland - Legalectric - Thu, 11/19/2015 - 10:00pm

Here’s a “response” to the Letter to the Editor that I wrote last month — check the flawed logic and ad hominem jab:

And, what I find completely reprehensible, is that an officer of the court will give tacit acquiesce to this kind of activity based on some abstract concept of “cultural injustice.”

Yup, he really said that… and more… and it took him so many more words to do it (I wonder who wrote it for him):

Letter: The issue is more than ‘cultural injustice’ By George W. Snyder, Red Wing from Red Wing on Nov 17, 2015 at 1:32 p.m.

To the Editor:

Recently in this space there was a reference made of “animosity towards Black Lives Matter.” I submit that it is not animosity to Black Lives Matter protest so much as frustration and sadness. Let me explain.

There have been numerous news accounts where gang members roll through a black neighborhood shooting indiscriminately and an innocent black child is killed by a stray bullet through the wall. What “cultural injustice” causes this behavior? And why does this black life not matter?

Roughly 7,000 blacks are murdered annually. Tragically this figure represents more than 50 percent of all murders and even sadder still is that 95 percent of these murders occur at the hand of other blacks (see Walter Williams’ “ Fiddling Away the Future,” July 8, 2015). What cultural injustice allows for this and why do these black lives not matter?

Two Hattiesburg, Mississippi, police were murdered by four black men and a black woman. One of the officers, 25-year-old Liquori Tare, was black as well. Why does officer Tate’s black life not matter?

Two Brooklyn police officers were assassinated as they sat in their police cruiser, Ismaaley Brinsley, the black gunman who killed them, had earlier put a bullet in his ex-girlfriends abdomen. Why does her black life not matter and what cultural injustice justifies her shooting in Baltimore as a kick off for a cop killing spree in Brooklyn?

What cultural injustice makes acceptable that a Texas cop should get capped for simply fueling his squad car?

In that same letter there was a reference made that there has been a “decrease in police gun deaths” which was little more than an editorial sleight of hand intended to skirt around the fact that the aforementioned police assassins are currently batting 1,000. And, what I find completely reprehensible, is that an officer of the court will give tacit acquiesce to this kind of activity based on some abstract concept of “cultural injustice.”

Furthermore, whites like myself demand and expect our chiefs of police continuously to monitor their officers for the excessive use force. To do otherwise is morally repugnant and antithetical to any police officer’s first call to duty.

The sad part is that the black lives of men, women and children that are preyed upon in these communities by black criminals are negligible or expendable for their plight does not serve to prop up any philosophical or political worldview of ideologically motivated individuals.

Therefore, I see no reason to entertain much less engage in a dialogue with those who make irrelevant emotional pronouncements at no personal risk to themselves. In the end they defend that which is indefensible and are content while others pay a cruel price.

George W. Snyder

Red Wing

Here’s the Letter to the Editor I wrote after the Red Wing City Council voted UNANIMOUSLY to reconsider Resolution 6873:

Letter: Thanks, City Council, for reconsideration By Carol A. Overland from Red Wing on Oct 18, 2015 at 11:00 a.m.

To the Editor:

Monday evening, the Red Wing City Council decided that resolution 6873, promoted by the National Fraternal Order of Police, needed further discussion, and forwarded it to the Human Rights Commission for a public dialog and forum. The council did the right thing.

It’s more than “five words.” The resolution cover sheet states “The United States has seen an increase of hostility toward law enforcement over the past two years” and “law enforcement is the target of criticism and violent attacks,” and the resolution claims a “violent surge against police.” 

However, statistics show a decrease in police deaths by gunfire.

The resolution language elicits an are-you-for-the-police-or-against-them twist, and serves as a distraction from the legitimate constitutional, civil, and human rights issues at the root of hostility and criticism of police. Animosity expressed toward #blacklivesmatter shows a failure to acknowledge cultural injustice.

As an attorney, an officer of the court, sworn to uphold the Constitution, I find this offensive, because the “increase of hostility” and “criticism” is a demand for accountability, observation of fundamental rights, and prosecution of crimes committed by police. We must address this systemic problem.

It’s incumbent on myself and other whites to acknowledge racial and class inequity and crimes against others, and work toward change. Each of us bears responsibility, and I’m glad to see the City Council display some understanding of the nuances of this resolution and the need for community discussion. In the words of Congressman Luis Gutierrez, “We’re not going back to the ’50s.” 

The best outcome might be for the Red Wing Police Department to continue its proactive training and quality policing, and for the City Council and Human Rights Commission to begin our community discussion of how we can achieve equality and “liberty and justice for all.”

Carol A. Overland

Red Wing


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Rulemaking Ch. 7829 at PUC tomorrow

Carol Overland - Legalectric - Wed, 11/18/2015 - 11:55am

Tomorrow, the Chapter 7829 Rulemaking is going to the Commission, for approval of the FINAL rules.  This rulemaking has been going on formally for over two years now in Docket 13-24 (go to NEW SEARCH and search for this docket).

Overland 7829 Comment Nov 18 2015

PUC Staff BriefingPapers_201511-115619-01

FINAL_Rules 7829_201511-115691-01

And some history…   I’ve been concerned about this chapter for a long while, and submitted a Petition for Rulemaking over FOUR YEARS ago.  Apparently that was filed in the trash:

Overland Petition for Rulemaking-7829

And prior posts:

Ch. 7829 Rulemaking Comments   July 20th, 2015 Stealth rulemaking — PUC’s Minn. R. Ch. 7829  July 10th, 2014 PUC’s Stealth 7829 Rulemaking Docket  June 4th, 2013 PUC requests Comments on 7829 rules  August 8th, 2013 Minn. R. 7829 marches on…   September 9th, 2013
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Still not a safe route to school

Betsey Buckheit - Wed, 11/18/2015 - 11:46am
246 Solutions Group is a new grassroots “group of concerned Northfield residents that came together to help change a very dangerous intersection” on MN State Highway 246 near three of Northfield’s five schools by asking MnDOT to reduce speed limits … Continue reading →
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The old grey mare just ain’t what she used to be…

Carol Overland - Legalectric - Tue, 11/17/2015 - 9:04pm

But she’s still pulling!  David, here’s the photo for Kevin!

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Hell Creek State Park (Montana) – Comments due 11/25

Carol Overland - Legalectric - Mon, 11/16/2015 - 12:20pm

Hell Creek State Park, Montana, circa 1966

Comments on the Hell Creek State Park Master Site & Management Plan – Draft_10-28-15 are due November 25, 2015.  They’re looking at choices to address the serious overcapacity use of the park, and to determine what to do when the “no-cost lease agreement” with the Army Corps of Engineers expires in 2021.  At this point, they’re wanting to address site infrastructure needs, make priority improvements and continue management of site and concession facility under a new contract with USACE.

Send Comments, labeled as “Hell Creek State Park – Comments” to:

Montana State Parks 1420 East 6th Ave PO Box 200701 Helena, MT  59620-0701

or online:

Decades ago on a family camping trip, we went to Hell Creek State Park, and it was stunning in its vast austerity.  It was on the bank of the Fort Peck Reservoir, the dam being part of our infrastructure tour that summer, and it was so bleak, hot, and dry, I wondered how people survived out there. Here’s the one campsite now with a tree!

We had to drive this intensely bumpy dirt road from Jordan, the nearest town, about 26 miles away, and it took a LONG time.  When we got there, we were the only campers, and were warmly greeted by the ranger, who showed us around, warned us about the cactus and said to be careful what shoes we wore because those spines could come right up through flimsy tennis shoes!  He also displayed his day’s work, he’d been out shooting rattlesnakes that day, and had half a flour sack full of dead rattlesnakes.   I don’t remember a beach, though there must have been a designated swimming area, and for sure there would have been a boat launch.  What I do remember of the reservoir, other than the dam, was an old wagon, the wooden kind, with a bench seat, the bench sticking up out of the water, which reminded me of what was probably lurking underneath the water, whatever was left when they flooded the river valley.

I’ve wanted to go back there, and now with the camper, it’s on the agenda (let’s hear it for online reservations with photos!).  And in looking at the park, I found this Plan, and it presents some interesting issues, ranging from dealing with outfitters who direct clients to the park and use it as a base; moving to increased online reservations and a reservation only system; dealing with water and sewage issues, fish cleaning waste; and campground improvements to water, sanitary sewer system, electrical and cell service (there is NO cell service in the area).

If you’re a camper, fisher, hunter, check out this plan and let them know what you think!




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